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03/02/2023 03:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:30:53 PM Start
03:31:28 PM SB57
04:09:55 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      SENATE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                    
                         March 2, 2023                                                                                          
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator David Wilson, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator James Kaufman, Vice Chair                                                                                               
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 57                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to  medical   assistance  for  recipients  of                                                               
Medicaid  waivers; establishing  an adult  care home  license and                                                               
procedures;  providing for  the  transition  of individuals  from                                                               
foster care  to adult  home care settings;  and providing  for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 8                                                                                                               
"An Act repealing the certificate of need program for health                                                                    
care facilities; making conforming amendments; and providing for                                                                
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - REMOVED FROM AGENDA                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  57                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ADULT HOME CARE; MED ASSISTANCE                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/06/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/06/23       (S)       HSS, FIN                                                                                               
03/02/23       (S)       HSS AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TONY NEWMAN, Acting Director                                                                                                    
Division of Senior and Disabilities Services                                                                                    
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced and provided a sectional analysis                                                              
for SB 57 on behalf of the administration.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE WHEELER, Long Term Care Ombudsman                                                                                     
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority                                                                                            
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 57.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK REINHART, Executive Director                                                                                            
Governor's Council on Disability and Special Education                                                                          
Department of Health (DOH)                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 57.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MARGE STONEKING, Advocacy Director                                                                                              
AARP Alaska                                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 57.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JOHN LEE, representing self                                                                                                     
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 57.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KIM CHAMPNEY, Executive Director                                                                                                
Alaska Association on Developmental Disabilities                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 57.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DAVID WILSON  called the Senate Health  and Social Services                                                             
Standing Committee meeting  to order at 3:30 p.m.  Present at the                                                               
call to order  were Senators Kaufman, Dunbar,  Giessel, and Chair                                                               
Wilson.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
             SB  57-ADULT HOME CARE; MED ASSISTANCE                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON announced the consideration of SENATE BILL NO. 57                                                                  
"An Act relating to medical assistance for recipients of                                                                        
Medicaid  waivers; establishing  an adult  care home  license and                                                               
procedures;  providing for  the  transition  of individuals  from                                                               
foster care  to adult  home care settings;  and providing  for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He  stated that  the intention  is to  hear the  introduction and                                                               
take invited and public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:26 PM                                                                                                                    
TONY   NEWMAN,   Acting   Director,  Division   of   Senior   and                                                               
Disabilities  Services,  Department  of Health,  Juneau,  Alaska,                                                               
stated that  SB 57 would add  to the array of  services under the                                                               
Alaska  Medicaid  Home  and Community-Based  Wavier  Program.  He                                                               
provided  a  brief  presentation  to explain  these  waivers.  He                                                               
paraphrased the following:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Senior and Disabilities Services  Medicaid Home and                                                                       
     Community-Based Waivers                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • Allow people with disabilities and seniors to remain                                                                     
        in their homes or local community settings when they                                                                    
        would otherwise need institutional care                                                                                 
        • Home and Community-Based Waivers receive a 50%                                                                        
        Federal and 50% General Fund Match                                                                                      
        • Alaska provides five home and community-based                                                                         
        waivers:                                                                                                                
        • Intellectual   and    Developmental   Disabilities                                                                    
          waiver (serving about 2,000 people)                                                                                   
        • Alaskans Living Independently waiver (2,200                                                                           
          people)                                                                                                               
        • Children with Complex Medical Conditions waiver                                                                       
          (225 people)                                                                                                          
        • Adults with Physical & Developmental Disabilities                                                                     
          waiver (144 people)                                                                                                   
        • Individualized Supports waiver (500 people)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  provided  examples  of  individuals  who  might  receive  the                                                               
waivers.  The idea  of these  waivers is  to provide  people with                                                               
more  independence  and  personal   choice  and  save  the  state                                                               
significant amounts of money.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:34:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NEWMAN  displayed the  array of  services that  are available                                                               
under  Alaska's Medicaid  Home  and  Community-Based Waivers.  He                                                               
explained that  some people  receive just  one of  these services                                                               
while others receive many at the  same time. Some of the services                                                               
are provided  solely in assisted  living homes and others  can be                                                               
delivered  in private  homes.  The common  thread  for people  on                                                               
waivers is  that they  all rely  on care  coordinators to  set up                                                               
support  plans  and help  recipients  maximize  the resources  in                                                               
their  community. Care  coordinators  are people  who are  either                                                               
self-employed or they work for small agencies.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:35:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NEWMAN stated  that SB  57 seeks  to provide  the people  on                                                               
waivers with a new service option  that would be offered in a new                                                               
type of licensed  residential setting called an  Adult Care Home.                                                               
The vision is  for the service and setting to  be less burdensome                                                               
administratively compared  to existing assisted living  homes but                                                               
still ensures  the residents'  care and  safety. He  described an                                                               
informal arrangement where  a homeowner with a  spare room offers                                                               
the space but  does not provide the needed  services. The support                                                               
service  will  ensure the  safety  and  as much  independence  as                                                               
possible  for   the  recipient  and  adequate   support  for  the                                                               
caregiver.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN  explained  that constituents  who  were  serving  as                                                               
foster  parents to  children with  severe  disabilities who  were                                                               
aging  out of  the  foster  system brought  the  idea  for SB  57                                                               
forward. They  found that the  only available option was  to turn                                                               
their home into an assisted  living home which required licensure                                                               
and other red tape. After  considering the matter, the department                                                               
realized that  a new type of  home care setting could  be broadly                                                               
beneficial. SB 57  extends the possibility of adult  home care to                                                               
individuals  with disabilities,  including  seniors, who  qualify                                                               
under the  Medicaid Home and Community-Based  Waiver Program. The                                                               
administrative  expectations   for  adult  care  homes   will  be                                                               
different  compared to  assisted  living  homes. He  acknowledged                                                               
that a lot of  the details have yet to be  worked out. Should the                                                               
bill  pass, the  department would  develop regulations  about the                                                               
credentials  and  training  caregivers   would  need,  the  space                                                               
expectations,  and  pay,  among  other  things.  Input  would  be                                                               
solicited from  all stakeholders. At  this point, SB  57 provides                                                               
the conceptual framework to get started on this alternative.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON requested the sectional analysis.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NEWMAN presented the sectional analysis for SB 57.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                       SECTIONAL ANALYSIS                                                                                       
            Senate Bill 57: Adult Home Care Services                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      Section 1. Adds a new section in AS 47.07, Medicaid                                                                     
        Assistance for  Needy  Persons,  declaring that  the                                                                    
        state shall pay for adult home  care services for an                                                                    
        individual at a daily rate set  by the department in                                                                    
        regulation for  individuals on  Medicaid who  are at                                                                    
        least 18;  enrolled in  a  home and  community-based                                                                    
        waiver  under  AS  47.07.045;  if  the  individual's                                                                    
        support  plan  is  approved  for   adult  home  care                                                                    
        services; and if  the person providing  the services                                                                    
        to the individual holds  an adult care  home license                                                                    
        issued under  AS  47.32.  This section  also  allows                                                                    
        individuals    to    receive     habilitative    and                                                                    
        rehabilitative care in  addition to adult  home care                                                                    
        services  and  directs   the  department   to  adopt                                                                    
        regulations  setting   a  rate   for  the   service,                                                                    
        establish standards  for  operating  an  adult  care                                                                    
        home, and establish a procedure for transitioning an                                                                    
        individual from  a licensed  foster care  home to  a                                                                    
        licensed adult care home. This  section also directs                                                                    
        the department to  establish a simple  and efficient                                                                    
        process to allow a foster parent  who holds a foster                                                                    
        home license  issued under  AS  47.32 to  transition                                                                    
        from the foster home  license to an adult  care home                                                                    
        license for purposes of maintaining the placement of                                                                    
        and  services  provided  to  an  individual  who  is                                                                    
        transitioning out  of  foster  care, enrolled  in  a                                                                    
        waiver, and at least 18 years of age.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2. Amends AS 47.32.010(b) to add a new entity,                                                                   
        "adult care  homes," that  shall be  subject to  the                                                                    
       centralized licensing functions of the department.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3. Adds a new section to AS 47.33 that defines                                                                   
        the  conditions  under  which   the  department  may                                                                    
        license an adult care home. A person may be licensed                                                                    
        to operate such a  home for an individual  who is at                                                                    
        least 18 years of  age and enrolled in  Medicaid and                                                                    
        home and community-based  waiver services.  An adult                                                                    
        care home may provide 24-hour oversight and care for                                                                    
        up to two  adults for compensation  or reimbursement                                                                    
        under  the  adult  home  care  service,  allows  the                                                                    
        department to establish  standards in  regulation to                                                                    
        authorize care for up to three  individuals based on                                                                    
        unusual  circumstances;   and   defines  "care"   as                                                                    
        providing for the physical, mental, and social needs                                                                    
        of an individual.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Section 4. Amends AS 47.32.900(2) to add adult care                                                                     
        homes to the list  of settings that are  not defined                                                                    
        as assisted living homes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5. Amends AS 47.32.900 to add a definition of                                                                    
        adult care  home,  meaning a  licensed  home, not  a                                                                    
        business site, in which the adult  head of household                                                                    
        resides and  provides 24-hour  care on  a continuing                                                                    
        basis for eligible individuals.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        Section 6. Amends uncodified law by adding a new                                                                      
        section that  requires the  Department of  Health to                                                                    
        submit for approval by the  United States Department                                                                    
        of Health  and Human  Services an  amendment to  the                                                                    
        state medical assistance  plan, waivers, or  an 1115                                                                    
        demonstration waiver as necessary  to allow eligible                                                                    
        individuals to receive adult home  care services and                                                                    
        other  long-term   care   services   that  are   not                                                                    
        duplicative.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        Section 7. Amends uncodified law by adding a new                                                                      
        Conditional Effect  Notification section  specifying                                                                    
        that Section  1 takes  effect if  the United  States                                                                    
        Department of  Health  and  Human Services  approves                                                                    
        amendments to the state plan submitted under Section                                                                    
        6  by   July  1,   2027,  and   adds  requires   the                                                                    
        commissioner of  health  to  notify the  revisor  of                                                                    
        statutes  in  writing  within  30  days  that  those                                                                    
        amendments were approved.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
       Section 8. Provides for an effective date for any                                                                      
        portion of section 1 as the day after the revisor of                                                                    
        statutes receives  notice from  the commissioner  of                                                                    
        health, per Section 7.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked the committee if there were any questions.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:41:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked how many states have a system that's                                                                       
exactly like what is being proposed and how many have something                                                                 
similar.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN offered to do  some research to determine which states                                                               
offer similar services.  He explained that the  challenge is that                                                               
states  can name  the program  as  they choose  and the  services                                                               
provided  may differ  somewhat because  Medicaid waiver  programs                                                               
are different in every state.  Oregon, for example, has a similar                                                               
program but those homes are called Adult Foster Care Homes.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  whether the  research  shows that  similar                                                               
programs are working.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN answered in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN  asked whether somebody  could declare  their own                                                               
home a care facility and be paid to receive services.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN  replied that's  the kind  of question  the department                                                               
would  need  to discuss  with  the  stakeholders and  develop  in                                                               
regulations  to avoid  conflicts of  interest and  prevent fraud,                                                               
waste, and abuse.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAUFMAN said  he  didn't think  it was  a  bad idea  for                                                               
people  to  stay  in  their   own  home  but  he  wondered  about                                                               
incentivizing  something  that  might have  occurred  anyway.  He                                                               
expressed interest  in hearing how  that sort of  situation could                                                               
be filtered out by regulation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:44:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL recalled that during  Covid a family member could                                                               
be paid for providing care for  a person who was staying in their                                                               
own home.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN confirmed that under  the public health emergency, the                                                               
Centers  for Medicare  & Medicaid  Services  (CMS) permitted  the                                                               
department  to  lift  the requirement  that  legally  responsible                                                               
individuals could  not be  compensated to  provide care.  That is                                                               
still the case,  but the state is looking at  whether to continue                                                               
that option.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  asked whether the  department found  or received                                                               
reports   of  fraud,   waste,  and   abuse  related   to  legally                                                               
responsible  individuals  receiving  compensation  for  providing                                                               
care.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN  answered no;  the  department  had not  seen  fraud,                                                               
waste,  and  abuse outside  the  norm.  The  caveat is  that  the                                                               
department doesn't  know how  widely this  option has  been used.                                                               
The department is  researching that question now,  so the details                                                               
will be forthcoming.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL said she'd appreciate the information.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:45:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  if it was  the homes  or the caregivers  that would                                                               
require licensure.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN  replied that  the  home  setting  would need  to  be                                                               
licensed by  the department  and the caregiver  would need  to be                                                               
certified by  the Division of  Senior and Disability  Services to                                                               
provide the  adult home  care service. He  noted that  the fiscal                                                               
notes reflect added staff to  handle the additional licensing and                                                               
certifications.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked  if the department envisions  developing a new                                                               
type of license and a new type of certification.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  NEWMAN replied  that it  would be  a new  type of  certified                                                               
service  that's  informed  by the  existing  types  of  certified                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  asked whether  he was  aware that  Arizona recently                                                               
did away  with the  different types  of licensure  for caregiving                                                               
and created  a single  license type  for multiple  settings. This                                                               
recognizes  that the  difference between  high certification  and                                                               
low certification might be a matter  of 40 hours of training. The                                                               
idea is to have a more unified caregiver workforce.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN replied  he was  not familiar  with what  Arizona had                                                               
done but  the Division is  always interested  in ways to  be more                                                               
efficient.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:49:15 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:49:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  reconvened the meeting and  opened public testimony                                                               
on SB  57. He advised  that written testimony could  be submitted                                                               
to shss@akleg.gov.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:50:10 PM                                                                                                                    
STEPHANIE  WHEELER,  Long  Term  Care  Ombudsman,  Alaska  Mental                                                               
Health  Trust   Authority,  Department  of   Revenue,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  stated support  for SB  57 which  will offer  seniors an                                                               
alternative to the existing service  and living options. She said                                                               
her  agency's mission  is to  provide resident-centered  advocacy                                                               
that protects the rights, health,  and safety of Alaskans who are                                                               
living in long-term care settings.  When they visit care settings                                                               
it is  common to hear seniors  voice their preference to  find an                                                               
assisted living home  that is closer to the  community where they                                                               
used  to live  or  where  they have  family.  SB  57 would  offer                                                               
support  for elders  to  remain  in or  near  their community  of                                                               
preference and  her agency believes in  offering seniors options.                                                               
She  reiterated  support for  SB  57  and  the choice  it  offers                                                               
seniors.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
PATRICK  REINHART,  Executive  Director,  Governor's  Council  on                                                               
Disability  and  Special  Education  ("Council"),  Department  of                                                               
Health (DOH), Anchorage, Alaska,  reminded the committee that the                                                               
Council voiced support  for SB 57 when they  met with legislators                                                               
recently  and nothing  had  changed.  SB 57  is  another tool  to                                                               
provide   services  close   to  peoples'   homes  and   in  their                                                               
communities. He asked  the committee to review the  points in the                                                               
Council's  position  statement  that they  recently  shared  with                                                               
legislators. He  opined that  the costs  reflected in  the fiscal                                                               
note were  minor compared to  the potential savings to  the state                                                               
by not  relying so  heavily on  institutional care.  He expressed                                                               
hope that the bill would pass.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MARGE  STONEKING,  Advocacy  Director,  AARP  Alaska,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,   stated  support   for  the   continued  expansion   and                                                               
improvement  of  home  and  community-based  waiver  services  to                                                               
support  the rapidly  growing  senior  population. This  includes                                                               
offering  a range  of residential  setting  options because  most                                                               
people want to remain in their  own homes and communities as they                                                               
age. She said  home and community-based services  cost a fraction                                                               
of  the cost  of  a nursing  home, but  the  home care  workforce                                                               
crisis   combined  with   the   rapidly   aging  population   was                                                               
threatening access  to home  and community-based  services (HCBS)                                                               
and driving  people into  assisted living  or nursing  homes. She                                                               
warned that this could increase  the Medicaid rolls as few people                                                               
can afford  long-term care in  facilities such as  nursing homes.                                                               
She said the  Adult Care Home model offers another  tool that can                                                               
appeal to  both waiver participants  and prospective  workers. It                                                               
is  a  solution  that  AARP  welcomes.  SB  57  will  reduce  the                                                               
administrative burden  for operators  while offering  seniors and                                                               
others the  option of a  more home-like setting  with lower-level                                                               
services and  fewer residents. It  is important to  support older                                                               
Alaskans  in  aging in  place  with  a participant-directed  care                                                               
service model. She said AARP supports  SB 57 and looks forward to                                                               
working with the department on the required regulations.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:24 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  LEE,  representing  self,   Palmer,  Alaska,  testified  in                                                               
support of SB 57. He shared  that as a former service provider in                                                               
some of the most rural Alaskan  communities, he was well aware of                                                               
the  challenges  of  offering services  in  these  settings.  The                                                               
difficult  choice  is  to  leave  the community  to  live  in  an                                                               
assisted  living  facility,  oftentimes  in  Anchorage,  to  have                                                               
access to  needed services. He opined  that SB 57 will  go a long                                                               
way toward resolving this issue  by providing care options closer                                                               
to home.  The care will be  provided in a more  home-like setting                                                               
and potentially  at a  lower cost than  an institution.  He urged                                                               
the committee to pass SB 57.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:58:54 PM                                                                                                                    
KIM   CHAMPNEY,  Executive   Director,   Alaska  Association   on                                                               
Developmental  Disabilities (AADD),  Juneau, Alaska,  stated that                                                               
the  80  members of  AADD  are  developmental disability  service                                                               
providers and  care coordinators who provide  services statewide.                                                               
They support the option SB  57 offers. She said the developmental                                                               
disability vision  states that  services should  support Alaskans                                                               
living the  lives they choose  to live. The  focus is to  build a                                                               
community-based  system to  meet the  diverse needs  of Alaskans.                                                               
She  highlighted the  current workforce  shortage and  the impact                                                               
this  has on  older Alaskans  and people  with disabilities.  She                                                               
said  flexibility  is  essential  and the  more  flexibility  the                                                               
system  has,  the  better  it   will  be  in  meeting  the  needs                                                               
throughout  the  state.  She  shared  a  personal  experience  to                                                               
emphasize  the  importance  of  providing  flexibility  for  both                                                               
caregivers and people  who need services. She  also described the                                                               
impact that  the rapidly growing  senior population is  having on                                                               
the  developmental  disability  workforce. She  said  AADD  looks                                                               
forward to  working with  its partners  on the  details if  SB 57                                                               
passes.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:02:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON closed  public testimony  on  SB 57  and asked  Mr.                                                               
Newman to  talk about how  a caregiver  would be paid,  who would                                                               
bill  the  state or  Medicaid  for  the  services, and  how  this                                                               
differs from assisted living home billings.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN replied that the first  step would be for the Division                                                               
of Senior  and Disabilities Services  to work with the  Office of                                                               
Rate Review  (which establishes Medicaid  rates for  services) to                                                               
establish the rates for the  services that would be offered. That                                                               
hasn't  happened.   Under  the   existing  system,   the  service                                                               
providers  bill  Medicaid  and  file claims  with  the  state  to                                                               
receive payment.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  recalled that when the  committee reviewed Medicaid                                                               
audits last year they found that  assisted living homes had a lot                                                               
of  billing  errors.  He  noted  that  the  committee  asked  the                                                               
department whether  more technical  assistance could  be provided                                                               
because difficulties with billing had  been the cause for several                                                               
homes closing over the years.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:05:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. NEWMAN said  one of the ideas  behind SB 57 is  to reduce the                                                               
administrative  requirements  to  encourage  as  many  people  as                                                               
possible to choose this option.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  asked   whether  he  or  someone   else  from  the                                                               
Department of  Health was available  to talk about  the potential                                                               
to save money for the state if the bill were to pass.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN stated  that a  ballpark estimate  is that  the state                                                               
would avoid spending  $427 million by providing  care services to                                                               
people in  a setting  that provides  a lower  level of  care than                                                               
nursing homes and care facilities.  He acknowledged that it would                                                               
be more  expensive for people  who are  making do with  less care                                                               
than they need. The division  weighed those factors and concluded                                                               
that  the cost  to the  Medicaid budget  would be  offset by  the                                                               
savings. That's why  the bill doesn't have a fiscal  note for the                                                               
Medicaid services budget.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:08:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON held SB 57 in committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:09:55 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Wilson adjourned  the Senate  Health  and Social  Services                                                               
Standing Committee meeting at 4:09 p.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 57 Version A.PDF SHSS 3/2/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 Summary Version A.pdf SFIN 3/28/2023 9:00:00 AM
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SB 57
SB 57 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 3/28/2023 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/2/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf SFIN 3/28/2023 9:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/2/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 Presentation 3.2.23.pdf SHSS 3/2/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 FN 1 - DOH HCS.pdf SHSS 3/2/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB 57 FN 2-DOH-SDS.PDF SHSS 3/2/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 57